i don't think obama can do it. i think that's what romney did for a living and i think that's the point you're missing about mitt. >> well, larry, we've had tax cuts, tax credits, tax stimulus, every kind of imaginable tax effort to boost the economy for the last 10 or 20 years. we're collecting 15% of gdp, the lowest since harry truman. the point is, there's no room left for this kind of stuff. we're going to have to actually raise more, even if it harms growth in the short run because you just can't keep borrowing at this rate. push comes to shove, we're at the point where we have to face the music, i think. >> david, want to thank you very much for joining us today. david stockman. >>> up next tonight, a man who really needs no introduction. >> it is cramer time. evening jim. >> hey, guys. other people want to make friends i'm going to help you make money off the debates. i have stocks that will move and can make you money tonight. i got one in particular that's going to knock your socks off. read the signs and